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August 27, 2020 at 12:45 pm

Ingram Kicks Off GWF Radio with Interview on Liberalism, Post-Liberalism

Robert G. Ingram, portrait

Robert G. Ingram

The first episode of GWF Radio, a new podcast from the George Washington Forum, features Patrick Deneen, professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame.

Dr. Robert G. Ingram, professor of History at Ohio University and director of the George Washington Forum, hosts the new podcast.

Ingram starts out the series with a breezy tease to Deneen, who was the very first GWF speaker in 2009, about the prescience of political scientists and how much as changed in the past 11 years.

“Well, as a political scientist of course I knew, down to every historical particular, exactly what was going to happen. See unlike an historian, political scientists are able to predict the future. That’s what it is to be a political scientist. All the political scientists saw this coming. Every single one called Trump to be the nominee and then eventually to win the election,” Deneen jokes.

“I think in a sense nobody saw this coming, or very few people saw this coming, but in another sense the book that I wrote, Why Liberalism Failed, which came out in 2018 … really was about what I saw as the logic of the liberal order. And part of that logic I saw was really that it was a new form of sifting winners from losers. There’s a chapter in that book called “The New Aristrocracy,” and what I point out is that liberalism was created in part to replace, or to displace, the old aristocracy.

“In a pre-liberal world, your last name told you who you were born from, or what your job was or where you were born…” says Deneen. The conversation goes on to discuss Alexis de Tocqueville, John Locke, Thomas Hobbes and much more.

“If you’re interested in liberalism, post-liberalism or even kudzu, give it a listen,” says the George Washington Forum Twitter post.

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